Re: Why do particles decay randomly?

[Bruno Marchal]

On 13 Apr 2013, at 15:21, Richard Ruquist wrote:
I have tried to study the UDA but lack sufficient understanding to  
see how the UDA could compute an infinite number of paths or  
universes as in the diffraction example I discussed.

I will remind this in later explanations. Dovetailing is a technic  
allowing to emulate digital parallelism with a single processor. The  
basic idea is that you can back again and again on the initial  
programs. You go through the programs p1, p2, p3, ... in that way:


p1, p2, p1, p2, p3, p1, p2, p1, p2, p3, p4, p1, p2, p1, p2, p3, p4,  
p5, p1, ...

and each time you emulate for some finite time the activity, and you  
save the "continuation" to resume that computation at the next meeting  
in that listing.

In that way, you will run all programs, even all those which never stop.

If you wait long enough, you will get the emulation of the linear  
evolution of the rational heisenberg matrix describing the Milky Way  
Observable, at all substitution level possible, and thus emulating  
notably many diffraction processes.

Church thesis ensures that you do enumerate all programs with the pi,  
once you have chosen a Turing universal system (like LISP, or the game- 
of-life pattern, or just some degree 4 diophantine polynomial).

Bruno





On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be>  
wrote:

On 12 Apr 2013, at 17:07, Richard Ruquist wrote:

Telmo,

I can only give you my opinion. You are of course referring to the  
double slit experiment where one photon can follow at least two  
different paths, and potentially an infinite number of paths.

But even diffraction of a single photon will do that: in the  
simplest case send a photon on to a semi-infinite metallic plane  
and the photon potentially scatters into an infinite number of  
paths from the edge of the plane. We only know which path when the  
photon reaches a detector plane on the far side. The actual  
deterministic diffraction pattern only emerges when the number of  
photons sent approaches infinity in plane waves. The actual path of  
a single photon is random within the constraints of the infinite- 
photon diffraction pattern.

So I say the way to deal with that is to propagate a large number  
of photons or do an EM wave calculation for the diffraction pattern.

I wonder how comp treats such single photon instances. Does it use  
algorithms that are random number generators?

No, it uses the first person indeterminacy in self-multiplication,  
which explains where the quantum wave comes from. I have explained  
this on this list and published it a long time ago. That is why I  
told you that if you take comp into consideration, you must derive  
QM and perhaps string theory (if it is correct) from addition and  
multiplication of the natural numbers. I see you have not yet  
studied or grasped the UDA :)

Bruno




Richard


On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:35 AM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com 
> wrote:
On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 4:24 PM, Richard Ruquist  
<yann...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Mathematics itself seems rather magical.
> For instance the sum 1+2+3+4+5.....infinity = -1/12
>
> And according to Scott Aaronson's new book
> when string theorists estimate the mass of a photon
> they get two components: one being 1/12
> and the other being that sum, so the mass is zero,
> thanks to Ramanujan
>
> If that sum is cutoff at some very large number but less than  
infinity,
> does anyone know the value of the summation.?

Hi Richard,

Ok, but in that case physics is deterministic, just hard to compute.
How do we then deal with the fact that two photons under the precise
same conditions can follow two different paths (except for some  
hidden
variable we don't know about)? I'm not a physicist and way over my
head here, so this is not a rhetorical question.


>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 10:15 AM, Telmo Menezes <te...@telmomenezes.com 
>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 3:30 AM, Stathis Papaioannou <stath...@gmail.com 
>
>> wrote:
>> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 5:35 AM, Craig Weinberg <whatsons...@gmail.com 
>
>> > wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Thursday, April 11, 2013 3:29:51 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>> On Thu, Apr 11, 2013 Craig Weinberg <whats...@gmail.com>  
wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> > If matter is deterministic, how could it behave in a  
random way?
>> >>>
>> >>>
>> >>> It couldn't.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Are you saying then that matter is random, or that it is  
neither random
>> >> nor
>> >> deterministic?
>> >
>> > Matter behaves randomly, but probability theory allows us to  
make
>> > predictions about random events.
>>
>> In my view, randomness = magic.
>> The MWI and Comp are the only theories I've seen so far that do  
not
>> require magic to explain observed randomness.
>>
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