On Sat, Apr 13, 2013 at 5:56 PM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Stephen Paul King
> <kingstephenp...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > It seems to me that the very idea of singular causes and singular
>> > effects is deeply flawed.
> Deeply flawed or not that reductionist philosophy has taught us everything
> we know about science.
The theory of evolution as proposed by Darwin is non-reductionist. It
relies on the concept of "natural selection", which is an holistic
Reductionism is more effective because of a selection bias. Problems
that can be solved by reductionism are easier. Finding a cure for
cancer or understanding exactly how the brain works resist the
reductionist approach to this day.
> If we believe in a holistic approach and assumed that
> we can't know anything until we know everything then we'd be stuck in a rut
You're creating a false dichotomy. It doesn't have to be single cause
or know everything. There are many possibilities in between.
>> > Can you point to a few examples of singular causes?
> I can do better than that, I can give a example of a effect with no cause at
> all, the creation of virtual particles.
One could argue that they are the result of some condition created by
the Big Bang. Causality is just a human concept anyway.
>> > All examples that I can think of have a line of regress behind them...
> So that means there is either a infinite regress of causes and effects like
> the layers of a infinite onion with no fundamental layer, or there is a
> effect without a cause. Neither of those possibilities is emotionally
> satisfying to some people but one of them must be true.
Unless we question causality itself. Which we should. This is why
Science is not the only way to pursue knowledge and Philosophy is
> John K Clark
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