On Wednesday, May 1, 2013 12:57:45 PM UTC-4, Brent wrote:
> On 5/1/2013 7:16 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: 
> >> What would 
> >> >constitute a solution to the "hard problem" that could be tested?  I 
> think 
> >> >the best we will be able to do is to understand human brains to the 
> point 
> >> >that we can manipulate thoughts and emotions as reported by subjects 
> and we 
> >> >can make AI robots that behave like humans and whose "character" we 
> can 
> >> >design as desired.  When we've done that we'll "bet" (as Bruno would 
> say) 
> >> >that we've solved the problem. 
> > This last step is the one that I revolt against. I am all for AI 
> > robots that behave like humans -- or better yet, do all of the nasty 
> > work for us. Or that appear emotional enough to provide companionship 
> > to lonely people. All of this is great. But why bet that we solved the 
> > consciousness problem then? 
> Why bet that other people are conscious? 
> Of course the real reason is that we're hardwired by evolution to make 
> that bet. 

Are we hardwired by evolution to question that bet also?


> Brent 
> > I don't see how the two things are 
> > related. The reason this is forced down our throats is that it is now 
> > blasphemy to suggest that Science is not the be-all and end-all of 
> > intelectual inquiry. It is possible to love and practice Science and 
> > reject this sort of dogma at the same time. 

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