On Fri, May 10, 2013 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote:

> No they are not exactly alike. A tiny change in a cuckoo clock causes a
>> tiny change in the clock's performance, but a tiny change in the roulette
>> wheel causes a HUGE change in the wheel's performance,
>>
>
> > True, but chaotic systems are still explainable in terms of forces and
> interactions, like any other Newtonian mechanism.


To explain how a chaotic system operates you'd have to describe the forces
acting on it in INFINITE detail, and a explanation that requires a infinite
(and not just astronomical) amount of verbiage isn't much of a
explanation.

> Science ultimately suffers from the halting problem. We can never be sure
> if it's hopeless or if there is a possibility of discovery ahead.
>

Yes.


>  > If I made a bet with you on the outcome of one double-slit experiment,
> there would be a set of macro states where I won the bet and a set where I
> lost it. I'm inclined to believe I would actually experience both of these
> outcomes.
>

About a year ago on this list I made a modest proposal, it's a low tech way
to test the Many World's interpretation of Quantum Mechanics and as a bonus
it'll make you rich too. First you buy one Powerball lottery ticket, the
drawing of the winning number is on Saturday at 11pm, now make a simple
machine that will pull the trigger on a 44 magnum revolver aimed at your
head at exactly 11:00:01pm UNLESS yours is the winning ticket. Your
subjective experience can only be that at 11:00:01pm despite 80 million to
one odds stacked against you a miracle occurs and the gun does not go off
and you're rich beyond the dreams of avarice. Of course for every universe
you're rich in there are 80 million in which your friends watch your head
explode, but that's a minor point, your consciousness no longer exists in
any of those worlds so you never have to see the mess, it's their problem
not yours.

Actually I like Many Worlds and think it may very well be right, but I
wouldn't bet my life on it.

  John K Clark

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