On Thu, May 9, 2013 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: > Roulette wheels are not random, they can be modeled as Newtonian > mechanisms, exactly like cuckoo clocks. >
No they are not exactly alike. A tiny change in a cuckoo clock causes a tiny change in the clock's performance, but a tiny change in the roulette wheel causes a HUGE change in the wheel's performance, and conceivably the change might be so small that we're talking about a quantum event. And if you don't like roulette then a electronic circuit that detects shot noise or a Geiger counter. > > You can accept that true randomness is fundamental, and thus, not > explainable I can accept that it is conceivable. I do not think that nature is obligated to arrange things in such a way that human beings can always understand them. > but the MWI and Bruno's FPI provide a compelling contrary hypothesis. I like the MWI because it doesn't have to explain what a observer or a observation is not because it gets rid of randomness. Personally I don't see much difference between saying something happened for no cause and saying something happened for a cause that can't ever be detected even in theory. And to tell you the truth I can't keep up with Bruno's homemade acronyms and terms and have quite forgotten what "FPI" even stands for. And speaking of profound mysteries, why isn't acronym a acronym? Hey wait a minute it is! Arranged Chronological Reassignment Of Names You Manipulate; acronym for short. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

