On Fri, May 10, 2013 at 6:20 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 5/10/2013 2:39 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote: > > No they are not exactly alike. A tiny change in a cuckoo clock causes a tiny >> change in the clock's performance, but a tiny change in the roulette wheel >> causes a HUGE change in the wheel's performance, > > True, but chaotic systems are still explainable in terms of forces and > interactions, like any other Newtonian mechanism. There is no > fundamental randomness needed to explain why you can't predict the > outcome. > > > But there aren't any Newtonian mechanisms. A roulette wheel is a quantum > mechanical device just like any other, except it's sensitivity means that > microscopic quantum randomness can be amplified to different macroscopic > results.
Sure, but I was arguing about true randomness being observable in the macro world, my point being that only very recently have human beings been confronted with direct observation of what appear to be truly random events. Telmo. > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list?hl=en. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
