On 21 Sep 2013, at 23:19, meekerdb wrote:
On 9/21/2013 9:18 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
No, memories I consider direct experiences, since they require
only that we are conscious. Indirect experiences would be
experiences which we can only detect using our body's sense
organs. Indirect experiences are 3p, thus they are bodies in
space, direct experiences are 1p, so they can contain any
combination of imagined forms, thoughts, feelings, etc.
That is not enough clear for me. I can't figure out what you mean
by indirect experience. I guess you mean experience (1p) occurring
when you think about a theory (like there is something on the other
side of the moon). That kind of things can mix a lot first and
first person plural aspects.
Keep also in mind that 'bodies in space' are first person plural
notion, they are not 3p.
No he means 'indirect' because you could experience the same vision
by having your optic nerve properly stimulated. So when you 'see a
chair' that is indirect - it is an interpretation of what your optic
nerve is doing.
OK. Thanks.
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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