On Monday, September 23, 2013 1:16:08 PM UTC-4, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > shape belongs to the category of numbers imagination, and with comp this > is given by arithmetical relations. > > Numbers imagination seem like human imagination to me.
> It is not. What is important is to not impose certainties on other. To > make clear what we assume. > That's what I am trying to do - make clear what you assume. If you start out granting numbers imagination, then you have already have consciousness, and have no need for comp. > > Maybe you can get a set of variables with unknown values, but why would > they have a smell or sound? > > > Because if they didn't, you would die when saying "yes" to the doctor. > Yes, you would. > > > > The truth or falsity of comp is out of my topic. > > I am interested only in the refutability of comp. > That may already be biasing the evaluation of comp beyond repair. Consciousness is not about refutability, it is about perceiving and participating. Refutability is a second order logic derived from that. If you use the weak standard of refutability, then you cannot be surprised when we take a puppet for a person. Craig > > > > > Bruno > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
