On Thu, Oct 17, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>wrote:
>> As I've said many times, being deterministic and being predictable is >> NOT the same thing. >> > > There is not *uncertainty* from the 3rd POV... nothing, zip, nada (both > event happen) and it is fully deterministic. > Bullshit. A Turing Machine is fully deterministic and there is nothing going on in it that Newton would not have understood, but will it ever stop? ALL observers are *uncertain* about that, all they can do is watch it and see if it stops. And ALL OBSERVERS are also *uncertain* about how long they will need to watch it to know, it might be forever or it might not, they are *uncertain* about that too. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

