2013/10/21 John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: > >> >>> When John Clark asks "who is you?" Bruno responds that he could no >>>> more answer that question than he could square a circle. >>>> >>> >>> > The quote, please. >>> >> >> >>John Clark will be happy to: On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Bruno >> Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: >> >> "So, asking me to not use pronouns, in what is in great part a theory of >> pronouns, is like asking me to square the circle." >> >> > I didn't say that "I could not answer that question". I said just the >> contrary: I offer a theory of pronouns. I need the use of pronouns in the >> thought experiment, because the goal is to clarify their use, >> > > So when Euclid explained what a line is he should have used the word > "line" in his explanation and said "a line is a line". > > > > Let me put it in this way: accepting that P(W) = P(M) =1/2, with W and M >> describing the first person experiences of the respective copies, do you >> accept that P(M) = P(W) = 1/2, >> > > No I don't accept that, not if P(W) is the probability that the Washington > Man will see Washington; the probability of that would be 1 not 1/2. And if > P(W) means the probability the Helsinki Man will see Washington that would > be 0 not 1/2 because the Helsinki Man would have to be turned into > something that is not the Helsinki Man before the Helsinki Man can see a > different city. >
So John Clark today is not a continuity of John Clark yesterday... > If P(W) means neither of those things then tell me what the hell it does > mean. > > > where the copy in M is delayed for one year? >> > > What point does the delay serve in this thought experiment? > > > As always the prediction are [blah blah] >> > > I don't give a damn about predictions, correct ones or incorrect ones, > because they have nothing to do with what we were talking about, the sense > of self. I only care if I remember being John Clark yesterday, if I do then > I'm still John Clark today. > So John Clark today is a continuity of John Clark yesterday... Please could you remember us who is the fool here ? And of course, the measuring of the spin of an electron in MWI is a totally different thing, and there it is totally correct to use probability... sure you're not a fool, you're an ass. Quentin > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.