2013/10/21 John Clark <[email protected]> > On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>> When John Clark asks "who is you?" Bruno responds that he could no >>>> more answer that question than he could square a circle. >>>> >>> >>> > The quote, please. >>> >> >> >>John Clark will be happy to: On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Bruno >> Marchal <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> "So, asking me to not use pronouns, in what is in great part a theory of >> pronouns, is like asking me to square the circle." >> >> > I didn't say that "I could not answer that question". I said just the >> contrary: I offer a theory of pronouns. I need the use of pronouns in the >> thought experiment, because the goal is to clarify their use, >> > > So when Euclid explained what a line is he should have used the word > "line" in his explanation and said "a line is a line". > > > > Let me put it in this way: accepting that P(W) = P(M) =1/2, with W and M >> describing the first person experiences of the respective copies, do you >> accept that P(M) = P(W) = 1/2, >> > > No I don't accept that, not if P(W) is the probability that the Washington > Man will see Washington; the probability of that would be 1 not 1/2. And if > P(W) means the probability the Helsinki Man will see Washington that would > be 0 not 1/2 because the Helsinki Man would have to be turned into > something that is not the Helsinki Man before the Helsinki Man can see a > different city. >
So John Clark today is not a continuity of John Clark yesterday... > If P(W) means neither of those things then tell me what the hell it does > mean. > > > where the copy in M is delayed for one year? >> > > What point does the delay serve in this thought experiment? > > > As always the prediction are [blah blah] >> > > I don't give a damn about predictions, correct ones or incorrect ones, > because they have nothing to do with what we were talking about, the sense > of self. I only care if I remember being John Clark yesterday, if I do then > I'm still John Clark today. > So John Clark today is a continuity of John Clark yesterday... Please could you remember us who is the fool here ? And of course, the measuring of the spin of an electron in MWI is a totally different thing, and there it is totally correct to use probability... sure you're not a fool, you're an ass. Quentin > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
