# Re: For John Clark

```2013/10/21 John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com>

> On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Bruno Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>
>>  >>> When John Clark asks "who is you?" Bruno responds that he could no
>>>> more answer that question than he could square a circle.
>>>>
>>>
>>> > The quote, please.
>>>
>>
>> >>John Clark will be happy to: On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 12:25 PM, Bruno
>> Marchal <marc...@ulb.ac.be> wrote:
>>
>>  "So, asking me to not use pronouns, in what is in great part a theory of
>> pronouns, is like asking me to square the circle."
>>
>> > I didn't say that "I could not answer that question". I said just the
>> contrary: I offer a theory of pronouns. I need the use of pronouns in the
>> thought experiment, because the goal is to clarify their use,
>>
>
> So when Euclid explained what a line is he should have used the word
> "line" in his explanation and said "a line is a line".
>
>
> > Let me put it in this way: accepting that P(W) = P(M) =1/2, with W and M
>> describing the first person experiences of the respective copies, do you
>> accept that P(M) = P(W) = 1/2,
>>
>
> No I don't accept that, not if P(W) is the probability that the Washington
> Man will see Washington; the probability of that would be 1 not 1/2. And if
> P(W) means the probability the Helsinki Man will see Washington that would
> be 0 not 1/2 because the Helsinki Man would have to be turned into
> something that is not the Helsinki Man before the Helsinki Man can see a
> different city.
>```
```
So John Clark today is not a continuity of John Clark yesterday...

>  If P(W) means neither of those things then tell me what the hell it does
> mean.
>
> > where the copy in M is delayed for one year?
>>
>
> What point does the delay serve in this thought experiment?
>
>  > As always the prediction are [blah blah]
>>
>
> I don't give a damn about predictions, correct ones or incorrect ones,
> because they have nothing to do with what we were talking about, the sense
> of self. I only care if I remember being John Clark yesterday, if I do then
> I'm still John Clark today.
>

So John Clark today is a continuity of John Clark yesterday...

Please could you remember us who is the fool here ?

And of course, the measuring of the spin of an electron in MWI is a totally
different thing, and there it is totally correct to use probability... sure
you're not a fool, you're an ass.

Quentin

>   John K Clark
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