# Re: For John Clark

```2013/10/22 John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com>

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> On Mon, Oct 21, 2013 at 6:03 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
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>  On 10/21/2013 9:16 AM, John Clark wrote:
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>>  >>  Let me put it in this way: accepting that P(W) = P(M) =1/2, with W
>>> and M describing the first person experiences of the respective copies, do
>>> you accept that P(M) = P(W) = 1/2,
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>>  > No I don't accept that, not if P(W) is the probability that the
>> Washington Man will see Washington; the probability of that would be 1 not
>> 1/2. And if P(W) means the probability the Helsinki Man will see Washington
>> that would be 0 not 1/2 because the Helsinki Man would have to be turned
>> into something that is not the Helsinki Man before the Helsinki Man can see
>> a different city.
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>> > Why?  If he flew to Washington he would still be the Helsinki man.
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> OK, then if he flew to Moscow he would be the Helsinki man too, and if he
> used a Star Trek style transporter instead of a airplane he would still be
> the Helsinki Man, and if the transporter sent him to both cities at the
> same time he would still be "The Helsinki Man". So you tell me, using logic
> and your definition how many cities did "The Helsinki Man" see?
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>>   > He's the Helsinki man because of the continuity of his memories, just
>> as you are still John Clark even though you've changed locations since
>> yesterday.
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> Fine. If that's what you mean by "The Helsinki Man" then in Bruno's
> thought experiment with the duplication chamber and using the exact same
> reasoning the probability The Helsinki Man will see Washington is 100% and
> the probability The Helsinki Man will see Moscow is 100%. And yes yes I
> know, each copy will see only one city, but if the definition of  "The
> Helsinki Man" is the one you give above, "the continuity of his memories",
> then it is irrelevant how many cities each individual copy sees.
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