2013/10/28 John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com>wrote: > > >> >>> >>> I give the two definition of the pronouns used in the reasoning, and >>>> often confused by the use of an identical term in natural language, but >>>> clearly distinguishes in UDA step 2, and the next one. The 1-you, basically >>>> "your" definition, or simply the content of the diary taken by the >>>> experiencer with him, and the 3-view, the content of the diary of an >>>> external (not entering in the teleportation box). >>>> >>> >>> >> Bruno Marchal said "We have already agree that "you" concerns the >>> guy(s) who will remember having been in Helsinki" . Remember those were >>> Bruno Marchal's words not John Clark's. Then Bruno Marchal asked point >>> blank "Do you think that you die in a self-duplication experience?" and >>> John Clark gave a unequivocal answer, "no". But then apparently Bruno >>> Marchal changed his mind about what the meaning of the pronoun "you" is; >>> >> >> > Another lie... >> > > If John Clark was lying >
Yes you are. > and Bruno has not changed his mind and "you" is still "the guy(s) who will > remember having been in Helsinki" then it is beyond dispute that YOU will > see BOTH Moscow AND Helsinki. > It is correct from 3rd POV, not from 1st POV... same thing in MWI. In MWI, you'll see from 1st POV *one* definite result, which is spin up or spin down, but from 3rd POV, one version of you see down, one up... *that* us beyond dispute. > And if John Clark was not lying > John Clark was... Quentin > then what is the new meaning of the personal pronoun "you"? > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.