2013/10/28 John Clark <[email protected]> > > On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 1:31 PM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>wrote: > > >> >>> >>> I give the two definition of the pronouns used in the reasoning, and >>>> often confused by the use of an identical term in natural language, but >>>> clearly distinguishes in UDA step 2, and the next one. The 1-you, basically >>>> "your" definition, or simply the content of the diary taken by the >>>> experiencer with him, and the 3-view, the content of the diary of an >>>> external (not entering in the teleportation box). >>>> >>> >>> >> Bruno Marchal said "We have already agree that "you" concerns the >>> guy(s) who will remember having been in Helsinki" . Remember those were >>> Bruno Marchal's words not John Clark's. Then Bruno Marchal asked point >>> blank "Do you think that you die in a self-duplication experience?" and >>> John Clark gave a unequivocal answer, "no". But then apparently Bruno >>> Marchal changed his mind about what the meaning of the pronoun "you" is; >>> >> >> > Another lie... >> > > If John Clark was lying >
Yes you are. > and Bruno has not changed his mind and "you" is still "the guy(s) who will > remember having been in Helsinki" then it is beyond dispute that YOU will > see BOTH Moscow AND Helsinki. > It is correct from 3rd POV, not from 1st POV... same thing in MWI. In MWI, you'll see from 1st POV *one* definite result, which is spin up or spin down, but from 3rd POV, one version of you see down, one up... *that* us beyond dispute. > And if John Clark was not lying > John Clark was... Quentin > then what is the new meaning of the personal pronoun "you"? > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
