On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote:
>> As I said before there is a profound difference between the two. After >> Everett's thought experiment is over only ONE person is seen by a third >> party so it's easy to determine who "you" is and easy to determine if >> predictions about what "you" will see were right or wrong, but with Bruno's >> thought experiment TWO people can be clearly seen that have a equal right >> to the title "you" which means that the predictions about what "you" will >> see are useless. And another difference is that Everett was talking about >> prediction and probability, and neither has anything to do with identity or >> a sense of self. [...] In Everett's case we know who "you" is, it's the >> only fellow we see. In Bruno's case right now we see 2 people clear as a >> bell and both are called "you" and both saw different things, and that >> makes meaningless the question asked yesterday "what is the probability >> "you" will see X?". [...] The diary is useless because the diary was >> written by "you" and contains predictions about the further adventures of >> "you", but now there are 2 (or more) people with the title "you" and no way >> to determine which one the diary was referring to. And the diary is >> useless because good predictions have no more to do with identity or a >> sense of self than bad predictions. >> > > > So are you at last ready to reject MWI...? if you don't, you are not > consistent > The following is a flow diagram of the conversation we've been having on this thread: Step 1: Quentin Anciaux states that John Clark treats Everett's ideas and Bruno's ideas inconsistently. Step 2: John Clark points out the ways Everett's ideas about probability and prediction and Bruno's ideas about the nature of self are fundamentally different. Step 3: Quentin Anciaux neither agrees nor disagrees with John Clark's points. Step 4: Quentin Anciaux inserts one or more personal insults directed at John Clark. Step 5: GOTO step 1. John k Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
