OK... but then you shouldn't have use that as an argument... I respect intuition, I don't respect using that as an argument.
Quentin 2013/11/1 Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> > Intuition > > > On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>wrote: > >> >> Le 1 nov. 2013 00:39, "Richard Ruquist" <[email protected]> a écrit : >> > >> > John, you are not the first that Quentin has categorized as a roger or >> stephen lin. Richard >> >> What does suggest that the universe is finite in the fact that we've >> found a fully formed galaxy 700 millions years after the big bang? >> Quentin >> > >> > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> 2013/10/31 John Clark <[email protected]> >> >>> >> >>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>>> >> As I said before there is a profound difference between the two. >> After Everett's thought experiment is over only ONE person is seen by a >> third party so it's easy to determine who "you" is and easy to determine if >> predictions about what "you" will see were right or wrong, but with Bruno's >> thought experiment TWO people can be clearly seen that have a equal right >> to the title "you" which means that the predictions about what "you" will >> see are useless. And another difference is that Everett was talking about >> prediction and probability, and neither has anything to do with identity or >> a sense of self. [...] In Everett's case we know who "you" is, it's the >> only fellow we see. In Bruno's case right now we see 2 people clear as a >> bell and both are called "you" and both saw different things, and that >> makes meaningless the question asked yesterday "what is the probability >> "you" will see X?". [...] The diary is useless because the diary was >> written by "you" and contains predictions about the further adventures of >> "you", but now there are 2 (or more) people with the title "you" and no way >> to determine which one the diary was referring to. And the diary is >> useless because good predictions have no more to do with identity or a >> sense of self than bad predictions. >> >>>> >> >>>> >> >>>> > So are you at last ready to reject MWI...? if you don't, you are >> not consistent >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> The following is a flow diagram of the conversation we've been having >> on this thread: >> >>> >> >> >> >> No you got it wrong, see previous message for the real steps... >> >> >> >> Anyway, if 've waited too much to put you in the boitakon, meet roger >> and stephen li... you'll never acknowledge you're wrong, because you're >> just a troll. >> >> >> >> Quentin >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>> Step 1: Quentin Anciaux states that John Clark treats Everett's ideas >> and Bruno's ideas inconsistently. >> >>> >> >>> Step 2: John Clark points out the ways Everett's ideas about >> probability and prediction and Bruno's ideas about the nature of self are >> fundamentally different. >> >>> >> >>> Step 3: Quentin Anciaux neither agrees nor disagrees with John >> Clark's points. >> >>> >> >>> Step 4: Quentin Anciaux inserts one or more personal insults directed >> at John Clark. >> >>> >> >>> Step 5: GOTO step 1. >> >>> >> >>> John k Clark >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> -- >> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Everything List" group. >> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >> send an email to [email protected]. >> >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> . >> >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Everything List" group. >> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to [email protected]. >> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >> Groups "Everything List" group. >> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >> an email to [email protected]. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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