John, you are not the first that Quentin has categorized as a roger or stephen lin. Richard
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > 2013/10/31 John Clark <[email protected]> > >> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>wrote: >> >> >> As I said before there is a profound difference between the two. After >>>> Everett's thought experiment is over only ONE person is seen by a third >>>> party so it's easy to determine who "you" is and easy to determine if >>>> predictions about what "you" will see were right or wrong, but with Bruno's >>>> thought experiment TWO people can be clearly seen that have a equal right >>>> to the title "you" which means that the predictions about what "you" will >>>> see are useless. And another difference is that Everett was talking about >>>> prediction and probability, and neither has anything to do with identity or >>>> a sense of self. [...] In Everett's case we know who "you" is, it's the >>>> only fellow we see. In Bruno's case right now we see 2 people clear as a >>>> bell and both are called "you" and both saw different things, and that >>>> makes meaningless the question asked yesterday "what is the probability >>>> "you" will see X?". [...] The diary is useless because the diary was >>>> written by "you" and contains predictions about the further adventures of >>>> "you", but now there are 2 (or more) people with the title "you" and no way >>>> to determine which one the diary was referring to. And the diary is >>>> useless because good predictions have no more to do with identity or a >>>> sense of self than bad predictions. >>>> >>> >>> > So are you at last ready to reject MWI...? if you don't, you are not >>> consistent >>> >> >> The following is a flow diagram of the conversation we've been having on >> this thread: >> >> > No you got it wrong, see previous message for the real steps... > > Anyway, if 've waited too much to put you in the boitakon, meet roger and > stephen li... you'll never acknowledge you're wrong, because you're just a > troll. > > Quentin > > >> Step 1: Quentin Anciaux states that John Clark treats Everett's ideas and >> Bruno's ideas inconsistently. >> >> Step 2: John Clark points out the ways Everett's ideas about probability >> and prediction and Bruno's ideas about the nature of self are fundamentally >> different. >> >> Step 3: Quentin Anciaux neither agrees nor disagrees with John Clark's >> points. >> >> Step 4: Quentin Anciaux inserts one or more personal insults directed at >> John Clark. >> >> Step 5: GOTO step 1. >> >> John k Clark >> >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > > -- > All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
