OK. I should have said "suggests intuitively: or "intuitively suggests" rather than merely "suggests that the universe is finite". However, your insult of categorizing me with roger and stephen lin is unmerited.
On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 7:01 AM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote: > OK... but then you shouldn't have use that as an argument... I respect > intuition, I don't respect using that as an argument. > > Quentin > > > 2013/11/1 Richard Ruquist <[email protected]> > >> Intuition >> >> >> On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 5:17 AM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> >>> Le 1 nov. 2013 00:39, "Richard Ruquist" <[email protected]> a écrit : >>> > >>> > John, you are not the first that Quentin has categorized as a roger or >>> stephen lin. Richard >>> >>> What does suggest that the universe is finite in the fact that we've >>> found a fully formed galaxy 700 millions years after the big bang? >>> Quentin >>> > >>> > On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 5:19 PM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> 2013/10/31 John Clark <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>>>> >> As I said before there is a profound difference between the >>> two. After Everett's thought experiment is over only ONE person is seen by >>> a third party so it's easy to determine who "you" is and easy to determine >>> if predictions about what "you" will see were right or wrong, but with >>> Bruno's thought experiment TWO people can be clearly seen that have a equal >>> right to the title "you" which means that the predictions about what "you" >>> will see are useless. And another difference is that Everett was talking >>> about prediction and probability, and neither has anything to do with >>> identity or a sense of self. [...] In Everett's case we know who "you" is, >>> it's the only fellow we see. In Bruno's case right now we see 2 people >>> clear as a bell and both are called "you" and both saw different things, >>> and that makes meaningless the question asked yesterday "what is the >>> probability "you" will see X?". [...] The diary is useless because the >>> diary was written by "you" and contains predictions about the further >>> adventures of "you", but now there are 2 (or more) people with the title >>> "you" and no way to determine which one the diary was referring to. And >>> the diary is useless because good predictions have no more to do with >>> identity or a sense of self than bad predictions. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> > So are you at last ready to reject MWI...? if you don't, you are >>> not consistent >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The following is a flow diagram of the conversation we've been >>> having on this thread: >>> >>> >>> >> >>> >> No you got it wrong, see previous message for the real steps... >>> >> >>> >> Anyway, if 've waited too much to put you in the boitakon, meet roger >>> and stephen li... you'll never acknowledge you're wrong, because you're >>> just a troll. >>> >> >>> >> Quentin >>> >>> >> >>> >>> >>> >>> Step 1: Quentin Anciaux states that John Clark treats Everett's >>> ideas and Bruno's ideas inconsistently. >>> >>> >>> >>> Step 2: John Clark points out the ways Everett's ideas about >>> probability and prediction and Bruno's ideas about the nature of self are >>> fundamentally different. >>> >>> >>> >>> Step 3: Quentin Anciaux neither agrees nor disagrees with John >>> Clark's points. >>> >>> >>> >>> Step 4: Quentin Anciaux inserts one or more personal insults >>> directed at John Clark. >>> >>> >>> >>> Step 5: GOTO step 1. >>> >>> >>> >>> John k Clark >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>> send an email to [email protected]. >>> >>> To post to this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. >>> >>> >> >>> >> -- >>> >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>> send an email to [email protected]. >>> >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> . >>> >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "Everything List" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > > > -- > All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in rain. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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