On 11/9/2013 11:37 PM, LizR wrote:
On 10 November 2013 08:13, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:

    On 11/9/2013 1:57 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
    Tegmark thinks he will survive, if the gun works sufficiently well. if not 
he might
    degrade and eventually ... die. This makes no sense to me. It is annoying, 
but we
    can degrade a lot, yet we can't die (with just comp, or, ITSM, with just the
    quantum MWI). With comp, we can expect jump, and "consciousness phase 
transition",
though.

    Aside from not finding myself the oldest person on the planet, I see a 
problem with
    quantum immortality in that quantum mechanics is time-reverse invariant.  
So I
    should be 'past immortal' also.  But as Mark Twain said, "I do not fear 
death, in
    view of the fact that I had been dead for billions and billions of years 
before I
    was born, and had not suffered the slightest inconvenience from it."  If we 
are what
    our brains do it is easy to see why we should live from past (low entropy) 
to future
    (higher entropy), be born and die.

Leaving aside time reversibility (which I am myself rather hot on) for a moment, if you're quantum immortal you can only expect to /eventually/ find yourself the oldest person. Give it time. You have to go through the bit beforehand beforehand...

True, but finding yourself in the first 1/N of your life when N=inf is highly 
unlikely.

Brent

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