but personal purpose must be metaphisical. I mean transcendental, beyond our own. Except in the case of people in the edge, that are concerned with its own survival.
you can not find meaning working every morning for a society if your society has not a purpose,a plan itself for going along. The need for an ultimate, transcendental purpose is so strong that every people gets depressed (even to suicide, Boltzmann for example) by the idea of a the thermal end of the Universe, even knowing that this end is unimaginably ahead in time. I find no better example of how purpose, long term planning for survival and transcendence are related in the human mind with quite practical consequences. 2013/11/26 Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> > > On 26 Nov 2013, at 00:32, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > On 25 November 2013 23:17, Alberto G. Corona <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> >>> 2013/11/25 Stathis Papaioannou <[email protected]> >>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 25 November 2013 12:35:50 am AEDT, Samiya Illias wrote: >>>> >>>> Bruno asks: "Should we search, or not, for a reason behind the physical >>>> reality?" >>>> >>>> We must, otherwise this life itself doesn't make any sense. There has to >>>> be a purpose, and there has to be some sort of an outcome. >>>> >>>> But why can't life lack sense and purpose? What logical or empirical law >>>> would that break? >>>> >>> >>> You implicitly are saying: >>> >>> 1) The only and certain purpose is to act according with the laws. So >>> there >>> is a purpose, although not personal purpose >>> 2)These laws are ultimate causes and conform the matter, make it be, so >>> as >>> such, They are beyond and prior to nature, that is, They are >>> sobrenatural. >>> and >>> 3)All the Laws are known. >>> >> >> I'm saying that there is no logical reason why there should be any >> purpose to life. What "purpose" means is pretty vague but I take it as >> something over and above your (1). Atheists may find "purpose" in, >> say, living a happy life or contributing to society, but there is no >> logical reason for those things to happen either. >> > > But we don't know that. There is no logical reason there shouldn't be a > purpose to life, universes and consciousness. > And there might be deep reason, yet arithmetical reasons, why we can live > happy lives. > Like they might be also reasons that it might not yet be as simple as some > would like to thought. > > Bruno > > > > > > > >> >> -- >> Stathis Papaioannou >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
