On 3 December 2013 09:49, Quentin Anciaux <[email protected]> wrote:
> 2013/12/2 LizR <[email protected]> > >> On 3 December 2013 09:40, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 12/2/2013 8:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> I'm sorry but we will have to agree we disagree on that. You're also >>> misleading atheistic position, and you're wrongly attributing "belief" to >>> atheist people (especially belgians)... I'm belgian, I'm not a materialist, >>> I consider myself atheist in regards of religions, and that's what most >>> atheist means when they say they are atheist. >>> >>> >>> >>> Call it "ultimate reality". It is OK, until you grasp enough of comp >>> to see that this rings a bit faulty. >>> >>> There is no problem to call it "ultimate reality", as long as you are >>> open it might have "personal" aspects, and have no prejudice on wht that >>> "ultimate reality" can be (with this or that hypothesis). >>> >>> >>> Then you should have no prejudice toward accepting matter as the >>> possible "ultimate reality". It too might have personal aspect. >>> >>> I believe Bruno's only "prejudice" about this is he thinks it leads to a >> contradiction. >> > > Assuming computationalism... > > I was taking that as read. But yes, Bruno also thinks that if you don't assume computationalism, you have to adopt a supernatural stance towards consciousness, and I imagine he's prejudiced against *that!* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

