On 3 December 2013 09:49, Quentin Anciaux <allco...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 2013/12/2 LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> > >> On 3 December 2013 09:40, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote: >> >>> On 12/2/2013 8:43 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: >>> >>> I'm sorry but we will have to agree we disagree on that. You're also >>> misleading atheistic position, and you're wrongly attributing "belief" to >>> atheist people (especially belgians)... I'm belgian, I'm not a materialist, >>> I consider myself atheist in regards of religions, and that's what most >>> atheist means when they say they are atheist. >>> >>> >>> >>> Call it "ultimate reality". It is OK, until you grasp enough of comp >>> to see that this rings a bit faulty. >>> >>> There is no problem to call it "ultimate reality", as long as you are >>> open it might have "personal" aspects, and have no prejudice on wht that >>> "ultimate reality" can be (with this or that hypothesis). >>> >>> >>> Then you should have no prejudice toward accepting matter as the >>> possible "ultimate reality". It too might have personal aspect. >>> >>> I believe Bruno's only "prejudice" about this is he thinks it leads to a >> contradiction. >> > > Assuming computationalism... > > I was taking that as read. But yes, Bruno also thinks that if you don't assume computationalism, you have to adopt a supernatural stance towards consciousness, and I imagine he's prejudiced against *that!* -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
