On 04 Dec 2013, at 11:39, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
>You talk like if I was believing in comp, or defending that comp is
true. I don't do that at all.
So you think that your belief in COMP is product of a computation,
At many levels. yes. if comp is assumed, that belief is generated by
the infinitely many "bruno marchal" generated notably by all
emulations of the history of the Milky Way at the level of strings and
with one billion decimal exact, and more.
so it is a belief,
An assumption we can do, yes.
but not a true meta-belief of the meta-numeical reality,
We don't know that, and we cannot know that. But we may know that such
belief is wrong.
so it is not worth a belief fo Bruno Marchall?.
Why?
Bruno
suc(10100110000)
sorry, a meta-glith in the UDA. Please call the measurers to fix it
out.
2013/12/4 Bruno Marchal <[email protected]>
On 03 Dec 2013, at 22:57, John Mikes wrote:
Bruno, I expected better from you. You seem to restrict the
unlimited possibilities into the PRESENT limitations of our
imagination.
I seem to restrict, but comp is an assumption of finiteness, which
augment the unlimited possibilities. "Non comp" is what limits the
possibility. Little things go through *more* holes than big things.
I am only "more open minded" on the unlimited possible relation
between machines and truth.
Do you have any support for the exclusivity of computationalism over
ALL (so far maybe not even thought about) systems that MAY
work?
You talk like if I was believing in comp, or defending that comp is
true. I don't do that at all.
Do you have support for YOUR version of "consciousness" as the ONLY
possible input for "Matter" (as we THINK of it TODAY?)
?
I don't understand.
And: I have no idea what would you cover by YOUR truth?
I have no pretension at all on any truth.
I explain two things:
- 1) IF we are machine, THEN physics IS a branch of numbers bio-
psycho-theology (a part of arithmetic).
-2) and this makes the assumption (of being a machine) refutable, as
I provide a constructive means to derive physics from arithmetic.
1) is given by the Universal Dovetailer Argument (UDA), and 2) is
provided by the translation of the UDA in arithmetic (AUDA, the
universal machine interview).
May be it is the human lack of imagination of some of the humans of
today which prevents them to listen to the machines of today, and to
see that they saw what Plato and the mystics seems to have seen too.
Bruno
http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/
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