Dunno. If the UDA can show that the world must be made of indistinguishable particles and
they must obey either Bose-Einstein or Fermi-Dirac statistics, but not Maxwell-Boltzman
that would be fairly impressive.
Brent
On 12/20/2013 11:41 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Hi Brent,
I know the difference. I am asking why? What if there is a UD related process
underlying the symmetry?
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:38 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 12/20/2013 11:18 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Hi Brent,
On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
On 12/20/2013 1:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The non-cloning theorem should be obvious, given that any piece of
observable
"matter" needs the entire UD* to get describe exactly, given that the
appearance of matter is only the result of the FPI on all computations
(an
infinite object).
That seems to prove to much. Although QM says you can't clone an
unknown state,
you can exactly reproduce a state; and elementary particles are
elementary
because they are indistinguishable. Your reasoning above seems to
imply that
every bit of matter will be unique, an infinite set of relations.
Brent
I don't think so! Bruno's argument would still work for indistinguishable
particles one we figure out that particles are NEVER isolated entities.
Their
properties follow only from their possible interaction values. Have you
noticed
that in GR there are no particles, only events? We can observe an electron
here and
an electron there and we cannot distinguish between them, they are
fungible, and
yet they are not "in the same place".
It's more than we just can't distinguish them. Bose-Einstein statistics
gives
different thermodynamics than Mawell-Boltzman.
Brent
Maybe the exchange symmetry is hidding under what Bruno is considering, re
the
non-cloning theorem.
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