Dunno. If the UDA can show that the world must be made of indistinguishable particles and they must obey either Bose-Einstein or Fermi-Dirac statistics, but not Maxwell-Boltzman that would be fairly impressive.

Brent

On 12/20/2013 11:41 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
Hi Brent,

I know the difference. I am asking why? What if there is a UD related process underlying the symmetry?


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 2:38 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:

    On 12/20/2013 11:18 AM, Stephen Paul King wrote:
    Hi Brent,


    On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 1:34 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
    <mailto:meeke...@verizon.net>> wrote:

        On 12/20/2013 1:07 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

        The non-cloning theorem should be obvious, given that any piece of 
observable
        "matter" needs the entire UD* to get describe exactly, given that the
        appearance of matter is only the result of the FPI on all computations 
(an
        infinite object).

        That seems to prove to much. Although QM says you can't clone an 
unknown state,
        you can exactly reproduce a state; and elementary particles are 
elementary
        because they are indistinguishable.  Your reasoning above seems to 
imply that
        every bit of matter will be unique, an infinite set of relations.

        Brent


     I don't think so! Bruno's argument would still work for indistinguishable
    particles one we figure out that particles are NEVER isolated entities. 
Their
    properties follow only from their possible interaction values.  Have you 
noticed
    that in GR there are no particles, only events? We can observe an electron 
here and
    an electron there and we cannot distinguish between them, they are 
fungible, and
    yet they are not "in the same place".

    It's more than we just can't distinguish them. Bose-Einstein statistics 
gives
    different thermodynamics than Mawell-Boltzman.

    Brent


    Maybe the exchange symmetry is hidding under what Bruno is considering, re 
the
    non-cloning theorem.

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