On 28 December 2013 17:41, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Stephen Paul King <
> stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote:
>> Hi LizR and Jason,
>>   Responding to both of you. I don't understand the claim of determinism
>> is "random noise" is necessary for the computations. Turing machines
>> require exact pre-specifiability. Adding noise oracles is cheating!
> I think you misunderstand.  Computers are deterministic, but they often
> need randomness to implement things such as cryptography or monte-carlo
> simulations, etc.  Due to this need for true unpredictability, our
> computers must harness environmental noise if they are to have any hope of
> being unpredictable.  This is because computers cannot generate
> unpredictability on their own.
> They are engineered not to! This is why digital recordings don't degrade,

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