Ah, but they do degrade. Consider your ability to access a '80s floppy drive's data.
On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:44 PM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 28 December 2013 17:41, Jason Resch <jasonre...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 11:27 PM, Stephen Paul King < >> stephe...@provensecure.com> wrote: >> >>> Hi LizR and Jason, >>> >>> Responding to both of you. I don't understand the claim of determinism >>> is "random noise" is necessary for the computations. Turing machines >>> require exact pre-specifiability. Adding noise oracles is cheating! >>> >>> >> I think you misunderstand. Computers are deterministic, but they often >> need randomness to implement things such as cryptography or monte-carlo >> simulations, etc. Due to this need for true unpredictability, our >> computers must harness environmental noise if they are to have any hope of >> being unpredictable. This is because computers cannot generate >> unpredictability on their own. >> >> They are engineered not to! This is why digital recordings don't degrade, > etc. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/sqWzozazMg0/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to email@example.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- Kindest Regards, Stephen Paul King Senior Researcher Mobile: (864) 567-3099 stephe...@provensecure.com http://www.provensecure.us/ “This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, notify sender immediately and delete this message immediately.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to firstname.lastname@example.org. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.