Liz,

No, I don't agree with that at all. As I've said on a number of occasions, 
reality is obviously computed because it exists. What more convincing proof 
could there be? If Bruno's comp claims reality is non-computable it's pure 
nonsense that is conclusively falsified by the very existence of reality.

Edgar


On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:12:46 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
>
> On 10 January 2014 13:51, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected] <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> Liz and Terren,
>>
>> I'm thinking more about this and think I've now changed my mind on it. 
>> After all I (my mental state etc.) do continually change from moment to 
>> moment yet I have no doubt I'm still me. I'm not the 'same' person, but I'm 
>> still me by all reasonable definitions.
>>
>> Therefore assuming an exact momentary but SEPARATE clone, that clone 
>> would no doubt tell everyone it was me, but the still extant me would of 
>> course disagree.
>>
>> Now assuming no 'ghost in the machine' or soul, for which no evidence 
>> exists, and that our mental states and consciousness are entirely a product 
>> of our biological bodies, then consider replacing various parts with exact 
>> copies. If say a leg was replaced with an exact copy (assuming instant 
>> healing to match the original) then I doubt 'I' would notice any 
>> difference. So my brain was (could be) instantaneously replaced with an 
>> exact copy with the exact neural circuitry and neural states then I suppose 
>> 'I' would still think I was me. I don't see why not.
>>
>> So what's the point? I forgot what it was...
>>
>> The point is that once you agree that your brain could in principle be 
> replaced with a copy, Bruno's "comp" arguments follow, with various 
> consequences (including reality being non-computable, I think - but check 
> with Bruno).
>  

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