Liz, No, that's not the only way to falsify it. One merely needs to show it doesn't properly describe reality as I've just done. If you even assume a computational universe in the first place you have to assume (you are assuming) that it computes reality. The fact that reality exists is conclusive proof.

Edgar On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:53:18 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: > > On 10 January 2014 14:22, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net <javascript:>>wrote: > >> Liz, >> >> No, I don't agree with that at all. As I've said on a number of >> occasions, reality is obviously computed because it exists. What more >> convincing proof could there be? >> > > One that explains why that has to be so would be a good start. > > >> If Bruno's comp claims reality is non-computable it's pure nonsense that >> is conclusively falsified by the very existence of reality. >> >> The point is that certain assumptions lead to certain conclusions. If the > conclusions invalidate the assumptions, then the correct response is to > throw out the original assumptions as invalid. Bruno starts from the > assumption that consciousness is a form of computation and draws certain > inferences. This isn't what comp "claims" it's what the argument shows, > given the assumptions. The only way to falsify it is to show that one of > the assumptions is wrong, or that there is a flaw in the reasoning that > leads to the conclusions. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.