Liz,
No, that's not the only way to falsify it. One merely needs to show it
doesn't properly describe reality as I've just done. If you even assume a
computational universe in the first place you have to assume (you are
assuming) that it computes reality. The fact that reality exists is
conclusive proof.

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Edgar
On Thursday, January 9, 2014 8:53:18 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
>
> On 10 January 2014 14:22, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> Liz,
>>
>> No, I don't agree with that at all. As I've said on a number of
>> occasions, reality is obviously computed because it exists. What more
>> convincing proof could there be?
>>
>
> One that explains why that has to be so would be a good start.
>
>
>> If Bruno's comp claims reality is non-computable it's pure nonsense that
>> is conclusively falsified by the very existence of reality.
>>
>> The point is that certain assumptions lead to certain conclusions. If the
> conclusions invalidate the assumptions, then the correct response is to
> throw out the original assumptions as invalid. Bruno starts from the
> assumption that consciousness is a form of computation and draws certain
> inferences. This isn't what comp "claims" it's what the argument shows,
> given the assumptions. The only way to falsify it is to show that one of
> the assumptions is wrong, or that there is a flaw in the reasoning that
> leads to the conclusions.
>
>
>
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