On 10 January 2014 15:34, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote:

> Liz,
> No, that's not the only way to falsify it. One merely needs to show it
> doesn't properly describe reality as I've just done. If you even assume a
> computational universe in the first place you have to assume (you are
> assuming) that it computes reality. The fact that reality exists is
> conclusive proof.
> That doesn't work for comp, however, which doesn't assume a computational
universe. The assumptions it makes are a lot simpler than that. I believe
they are

The Church-Turing thesis
Elementary arithmetic
That consciousness is a form of computation

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