On 10 Jan 2014, at 04:16, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
Liz,
So? I'm not really interested in Bruno's comp as I don't think it
actually applies to reality. I'll stick with my computational
reality for the time being at least...
But, please, define it. Nobody has the slightest idea of what you are
talking about. Computation is a standard term in mathematical logic,
and refer to the Church thesis.
You can use a word with a different meaning, but then you have to
provide the meaning that you are using. We cannot guess it.
Also, "reality" is what we search, starting from statement on which we
can agree (if only momentarily).
You talk all the time like if yo, or we, knew what is reality. We
don't. That's why we do research.
Bruno
Edgar
On Thursday, January 9, 2014 10:05:03 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
Well, that's OK then.
Now we've cleared that up, I can repeat my original point:
On 10 January 2014 15:34, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote:
Liz,
No, that's not the only way to falsify it. One merely needs to show
it doesn't properly describe reality as I've just done. If you even
assume a computational universe in the first place you have to
assume (you are assuming) that it computes reality. The fact that
reality exists is conclusive proof.
That doesn't work for [Bruno's] comp, however, which doesn't assume
a computational universe. The assumptions it makes are a lot simpler
than that. I believe they are
The Church-Turing thesis
Elementary arithmetic
That consciousness is a form of computation
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