On 14 January 2014 13:10, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected]> wrote: > Terren, > > No, it's not that simple as I thought I had explained. You have to > consider not just what is happening in the simulated being's 'mind' or > simulation but the whole context of the simulation. I'll try again. Even if > a simulated world is entirely convincing in the short term it still MUST > exist in the actual reality, and if it is not in accordance with the actual > logic of that actual reality it will quickly or eventually fail. The real > being must exist somewhere else and be receiving nutrients etc. in a real > actual reality with which it is in logical synch with. > > Thus you can't have just any old arbitrary fake simulation running or the > simulated being will quickly die in the real actual reality in which it > MUST have an actual existence. So there will always be a way to tell if the > reality you live in is simulated or not. If you actually exist then at > least the basics must be in accord with actual reality. > > Of course, as you suggest, there are many non-essential ways a simulation > can be wrong and the subject still function, but no essential ones. No > matter how simulated an internal reality is it still must exist in a real > actual reality and this will always eventually give a false simulation away > when it is tested against actual reality by the test of whether it is > consistent with the continued existence and functioning of the subject. > > So if nobody ever dies, that proves we're living in the real world, rather than a simulation.
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