Liz,

That doesn't follow. Don't you understand basic logical forms?

Edgar

On Monday, January 13, 2014 7:15:04 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
>
> On 14 January 2014 13:10, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net <javascript:>>wrote:
>
>> Terren,
>>
>> No, it's not that simple as I thought I had explained. You have to 
>> consider not just what is happening in the simulated being's 'mind' or 
>> simulation but the whole context of the simulation. I'll try again. Even if 
>> a simulated world is entirely convincing in the short term it still MUST 
>> exist in the actual reality, and if it is not in accordance with the actual 
>> logic of that actual reality it will quickly or eventually fail. The real 
>> being must exist somewhere else and be receiving nutrients etc. in a real 
>> actual reality with which it is in logical synch with.
>>
>> Thus you can't have just any old arbitrary fake simulation running or the 
>> simulated being will quickly die in the real actual reality in which it 
>> MUST have an actual existence. So there will always be a way to tell if the 
>> reality you live in is simulated or not. If you actually exist then at 
>> least the basics must be in accord with actual reality.
>>
>> Of course, as you suggest, there are many non-essential ways a simulation 
>> can be wrong and the subject still function, but no essential ones. No 
>> matter how simulated an internal reality is it still must exist in a real 
>> actual reality and this will always eventually give a false simulation away 
>> when it is tested against actual reality by the test of whether it is 
>> consistent with the continued existence and functioning of the subject.
>>
>> So if nobody ever dies, that proves we're living in the real world, 
> rather than a simulation.
>
>

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