Sure, the particle property conservation laws that conserve the amounts of 
particle properties in elementary particle interactions, and the laws that 
govern the binding of elementary particles in matter. These are the 
fundamental computations that determine most of the structure of the 

How and where is the code stored? There is no 'where' in a non-dimensional 
computational space. How it is stored I intimated in an earlier response of 
an hour or so ago. It's stored as combinations of code and data in the 
actual process of evolving computationally.

How do the computations decide what data they will interact with? The 
computations include the data they compute in one information structure as 
explained above.

What grid cells? Aren't you familiar with the standard rubber sheet model 
of GR? The rubber sheet has grid cells drawn on it.


On Monday, January 13, 2014 10:22:30 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote:
> On 14 January 2014 16:10, Edgar L. Owen < <javascript:>>wrote:
>> Brent,
>> The "elements of the set" are the information encoding the current state 
>> of the universe and how it is evolving - whatever that may be. What that 
>> may be needs to be further clarified. I've put forth a whole list of likely 
>> possibilities on this group over the past week or so including several 
>> today which I'm not going to repeat here.
> Maybe you could just repeat one of them, as a little reminder. 
>> The equations you present are not nearer or farther, they don't even 
>> exist in computational reality. 
> They would be emergent, presumably.
>> What exists is actual code computing actual data, not abstract static 
>> equations absent actual real data.
> How and where is the code and data stored?
>> What is computationally 'nearer' is data that will interact to compute 
>> actual interactions of say elemental particles. Computational nearness 
>> produces dimensional nearness as dimensionality emerges from the 
>> computations. That's how we know what is computationally nearer. There is 
>> no topology of this non-dimensional computational space. It's all logical 
>> connections and associations, nearness is what interacts computationally.
> How do the computations "decide" what data they will interact with? 
>> And as a bonus, GR emerges automatically if we take mass-energy as the 
>> relative scale of the dimensionality that emerges. That automatically 
>> dilates spacetime around mass-energy. Visualize this as a GR rubber sheet 
>> model in which the depression around a mass is caused by a dilation of the 
>> grid cells of the surrounding rubber sheet and you'll see how this works.
>> What grid cells?

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