Liz, Good question which I've given a lot of thought to and which is still not completely clear in my mind...
The processors are not separate physical entities processing the data and they are not separated from the data (the information). So far as I can see all actual information has to include both applicable code and data in a single evolving information structure. That seems to me the only way the processor, code and data states can always be together where the computations actually occur. They probably occur only at the most elemental level so there have to be googles of these elemental computations taking place in every processor cycle. So the actual picture is more like computationally evolving information rather than the PC model of code strings passing through silicon processors sequentially accessing data as needed. All the information that makes up the universe has to include its own applicable (and likely pretty simple) rules of evolution as it interacts with other information. Since all information exists only in the present moment processor cycle there cannot be any information code sequences that are waiting to be processed (as there are in silicon code). Because they would correspond to a pre-determined future. Everything has to be re-computed in the current p-time cycle. Anything that is not re-computed is left behind in the past and thus ceases to exist. Thus it is not information data states waiting to be computed by strings of pre-existing code sequences. That doesn't work because when multiple code sequences predicting a local future interact there would inevitably be inconsistencies and the computations would fall apart. Not sure if this is clear or not. Thus everything that exists is in a continual state of re-computation in every processor cycle. What exists is the active evolution of all information, not sequential static data states one after the other. Edgar Edgar Edgar On Monday, January 13, 2014 7:54:26 PM UTC-5, Liz R wrote: > > On 14 January 2014 13:40, Edgar L. Owen <[email protected] <javascript:>>wrote: > >> Stephen, >> >> If everything is information being computed then obviously all observers >> are also part of that and thus analogous to running programs interacting >> computationally with the other running programs of reality. I guess I >> hadn't made that clear yet... >> > > That's OK, Bruno has said something very similar, so we're familiar with > the concept. > >> >> Everything is analogous to a running program. Reality can be thought of >> as a single universal running program that can be analyzed into individual >> running programs. The distinction is that biological programs construct >> internal models of their program environments to improve their functioning. >> Non-biological programs just interact according to their natures with no >> such internal simulation data models of their environments... >> >> What I can't understand here is how the programmes get distributed across > the googols of processors, which you've assured us *aren't* akin to a > game of life (so they *aren't* autonomously running some simple programme > that only interacts with their immediate neighbours). > > How is all this arranged? > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

