No, there are NOT many POSSIBLE worlds. There are many ACTUAL simulations
of a single computational reality, and all of those simulations are not
arbitrary sci fi scenarios but solidly based in the actual logic of reality
at least in their essentials. Because these are real world views of real
biological organisms. They have to be accurate in their essentials for the
organisms to exist and function.
I find it difficult to understand how you would think I believe in "many
possible worlds with alternative physics, etc." when I've consistently
argued just the opposite.
On Monday, January 13, 2014 8:42:28 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
> On 1/13/2014 4:10 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
> > Terren,
> > No, it's not that simple as I thought I had explained. You have to
> consider not just
> > what is happening in the simulated being's 'mind' or simulation but the
> whole context of
> > the simulation. I'll try again. Even if a simulated world is entirely
> convincing in the
> > short term it still MUST exist in the actual reality, and if it is not
> in accordance
> > with the actual logic of that actual reality it will quickly or
> eventually fail. The
> > real being must exist somewhere else and be receiving nutrients etc. in
> a real actual
> > reality with which it is in logical synch with.
> So you're saying that although there are many possible world's
> (alternative physics, etc)
> that can exist in simulations, only one of these is real. Which raises
> the question, why
> this one?
> > Thus you can't have just any old arbitrary fake simulation running or
> the simulated
> > being will quickly die in the real actual reality in which it MUST have
> an actual
> > existence. So there will always be a way to tell if the reality you live
> in is simulated
> > or not. If you actually exist then at least the basics must be in accord
> with actual
> > reality.
> > Of course, as you suggest, there are many non-essential ways a
> simulation can be wrong
> > and the subject still function, but no essential ones. No matter how
> simulated an
> > internal reality is it still must exist in a real actual reality and
> this will always
> > eventually give a false simulation away when it is tested against actual
> reality by the
> > test of whether it is consistent with the continued existence and
> functioning of the
> > subject.
> > Edgar
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