On 1/13/2014 4:10 PM, Edgar L. Owen wrote:
No, it's not that simple as I thought I had explained. You have to consider not just
what is happening in the simulated being's 'mind' or simulation but the whole context of
the simulation. I'll try again. Even if a simulated world is entirely convincing in the
short term it still MUST exist in the actual reality, and if it is not in accordance
with the actual logic of that actual reality it will quickly or eventually fail. The
real being must exist somewhere else and be receiving nutrients etc. in a real actual
reality with which it is in logical synch with.
So you're saying that although there are many possible world's (alternative physics, etc)
that can exist in simulations, only one of these is real. Which raises the question, why
Thus you can't have just any old arbitrary fake simulation running or the simulated
being will quickly die in the real actual reality in which it MUST have an actual
existence. So there will always be a way to tell if the reality you live in is simulated
or not. If you actually exist then at least the basics must be in accord with actual
Of course, as you suggest, there are many non-essential ways a simulation can be wrong
and the subject still function, but no essential ones. No matter how simulated an
internal reality is it still must exist in a real actual reality and this will always
eventually give a false simulation away when it is tested against actual reality by the
test of whether it is consistent with the continued existence and functioning of the
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