On 16 Jan 2014, at 21:27, Stephen Paul King wrote:

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Dear Edgar,The closest thing that I can comprehend that might line up withyour ideas of a "abstract dimensionLESS computational space" is aHilbert space.

+ unitary evolution.

`But arithmetic is far simpler, conceptually, and less demanding,`

`ontologically.`

Bruno

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:29 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net>wrote:Stephen,There is no "all of spacetime" nor "each point of spacetime" wherethe computations are occuring. Remember, that's an abstractdimensionLESS computational space prior to dimensional spacetime. Ithas no 'points' itself, it computes all points of dimensional spaceand clock time. They arise as dimensional relationships imposed bythe particle property conservation laws and the laws that computethe binding forces of matter.But am pleased to hear you agree with the rest, the general concept... EdgarOn Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:23:50 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul Kingwrote:Dear Edgar,I would agree with your idea here if you made one change: replacethe single abstract computing space for all of space-time andreplace it with an abstract computing space for each point of space-time. The *one* computation becomes an *infinite number* of disjointcomputations. There are also an infinite number of differentcomputations possible for each point for space time! Considerprograms that are written in disjoint languages, i.e. that have notrivial translation between them or a common compiler. How manydifferent computations can generate a simulation of the samephysical system? More than one!This can be proven, I think, by rewriting A.A. Markov'sdiffeomorphism theorem into a weaker form. Something like: Theredoes not exist a general algorithm that can decide in finite timewhether or not a smooth diffeomorphism exists between any pair of 4-manifolds.OTOH, there do exist finite approximations of computations ofclocks that can be defined in finite hypervolumes of space-time.This gives us the illusion of a present moment that is percievableat each point of space-time, but it is not one that can bearbitrarily extended to cover all of the manifold. Computation thuscannot be extendible over the entire manifold and thus there cannotbe a global present moment that can be "computed".The point is that GR requires an infinite number of infinitesimalspace-times that are "patched together" into a space-time manifoldin order to make its predictions (including the equivalenceprinciple). Since a physical clock cannot be defined *in* ainfinitesimal space-time hypervolume (specifically the localneighborhood or "ball" of every point in the space-time manifold),there is no way of globally ordering the "present moments" thatwould be said to exist at each point.On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net>wrote:Hi Jason,Yes I do have an explanation for how GR effects are computed. Thanksfor asking. It's refreshing to just have someone ask a questionabout my theories rather than jumping to attack them. Muchappreciated...The processor cycles for all computations are provided by P-time(clock time doesn't exist yet as it is going to be computed alongwith all other information states). Thus all computations occursimultaneously and continually in a non-dimensional abstractcomputational space as p-time progresses.The results of these computations is the information states ofeverything in the universe including all relativistic effects. Theway this works to automatically get GR effects is simply to use thepure numeric information of the mass-energy particle property as therelative SCALE of the dimensionality of spacetime as it is computed.The effect of this is to automatically dilate (curve) spacetimearound mass-energy concentrations and this produces the correct GReffects of curved spacetime.Imagine the usual GR rubber sheet model where the curvature of therubber sheet is caused not by a weight sitting on it, but by adilation of the spacetime grids around a central grid full of mass-energy.This mechanism automatically produces all the effects of GR from thefundamental computations as spacetime is dimensionalized by thosecomputations. The slowing of time with acceleration comes bycomparing the length and duration of motion of an object along theslope of the dilation to the number of orthogonal grids it crossesas it moves.If this is not clear let me know. Edgar On Thursday, January 16, 2014 11:52:39 AM UTC-5, Jason wrote:Do you have an explanation for why reality time computes fewermoments for someone accelerating than someone at rest?< ... --You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic inthe Google Groups "Everything List" group.To unsubscribe from this topic, visit https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/TBc_y2MZV5c/unsubscribe.To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com.To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. 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