Stephen, Yes, of course p-time is observable. The present moment of p-time is the present moment we all observe our entire existence within from birth to death.

It's the most fundamental and persistent of observations... Edgar On Thursday, January 16, 2014 3:28:06 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: > > Dear Edgar, > > Is P-time observable? > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net<javascript:> > > wrote: > > Stephen, > > PS: I agree with the rest of what you are saying here but again you are > talking about clock time, dimensional spacetime, and not P-time which is > distinct and is prior to any metrics... > > Edgar > > > > On Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:23:50 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: > > Dear Edgar, > > I would agree with your idea here if you made one change: replace the > single abstract computing space for all of space-time and replace it with > an abstract computing space for each point of space-time. The *one* > computation becomes an *infinite number* of disjoint computations. There > are also an infinite number of different computations possible for each > point for space time! Consider programs that are written in disjoint > languages, i.e. that have no trivial translation between them or a common > compiler. How many different computations can generate a simulation of the > same physical system? More than one! > > This can be proven, I think, by rewriting A.A. Markov's diffeomorphism > theorem into a weaker form. Something like: There does not exist a general > algorithm that can decide in finite time whether or not a smooth > diffeomorphism exists between any pair of 4-manifolds. > OTOH, there do exist finite approximations of computations of clocks > that can be defined in finite hypervolumes of space-time. This gives us the > illusion of a present moment that is percievable at each point of > space-time, but it is not one that can be arbitrarily extended to cover all > of the manifold. Computation thus cannot be extendible over the entire > manifold and thus there cannot be a global present moment that can be > "computed". > > The point is that GR requires an infinite number of infinitesimal > space-times that are "patched together" into a space-time manifold in order > to make its predictions (including the equivalence principle). Since a > physical clock cannot be defined *in* a infinitesimal space-time > hypervolume (specifically the local neighborhood or "ball" of every point > in the space-time manifold), there is no way of globally ordering the > "present moments" that would be said to exist at each point. > > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net> wrote: > > Hi Jason, > > Yes I do have an explanation for how GR effects are computed. Thanks for > asking. It's refreshing to just have someone ask a question about my > theories rather than jumping to attack them. Much appreciated... > > The processor cycles for all computations are provided by P-time (clock > time doesn't exist yet as it is going to be computed along with all other > information states). Thus all computations occur simultaneously and > continually in a non-dimensional abstract computational space as p-time > progresses. > > The results of these computations is the information states of everything > in the universe including all relativistic effects. The way this works to > automatically get GR effects is simply to use the pure numeric information > of the mass-energy particle property as the relative SCALE of the > dimensionality of spacetime as it is computed. The effect of this is to > automatically dilate (cur > > ... -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.