Yes, of course p-time is observable. The present moment of p-time is the 
present moment we all observe our entire existence within from birth to 

It's the most fundamental and persistent of observations...


On Thursday, January 16, 2014 3:28:06 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
> Dear Edgar,
>   Is P-time observable?
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Edgar L. Owen <<javascript:>
> > wrote:
> Stephen,
> PS: I agree with the rest of what you are saying here but again you are 
> talking about clock time, dimensional spacetime, and not P-time which is 
> distinct and is prior to any metrics...
> Edgar
> On Thursday, January 16, 2014 1:23:50 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote:
> Dear Edgar,
>   I would agree with your idea here if you made one change: replace the 
> single abstract computing space for all of space-time and replace it with 
> an abstract computing space for each point of space-time. The *one* 
> computation becomes an *infinite number* of disjoint computations. There 
> are also an infinite number of different computations possible for each 
> point for space time! Consider programs that are written in disjoint 
> languages, i.e. that have no trivial translation between them or a common 
> compiler. How many different computations can generate a simulation of the 
> same physical system? More than one!
>    This can be proven, I think, by rewriting A.A. Markov's diffeomorphism 
> theorem into a weaker form. Something like: There does not exist a general 
> algorithm that can decide in finite time whether or not a smooth 
> diffeomorphism exists between any pair of 4-manifolds. 
>    OTOH, there do exist finite approximations of computations of clocks 
> that can be defined in finite hypervolumes of space-time. This gives us the 
> illusion of a present moment that is percievable at each point of 
> space-time, but it is not one that can be arbitrarily extended to cover all 
> of the manifold. Computation thus cannot be extendible over the entire 
> manifold and thus there cannot be a global present moment that can be 
> "computed".
>   The point is that GR requires an infinite number of infinitesimal 
> space-times that are "patched together" into a space-time manifold in order 
> to make its predictions (including the equivalence principle). Since a 
> physical clock cannot be defined *in* a infinitesimal space-time 
> hypervolume (specifically the local neighborhood or "ball" of every point 
> in the space-time manifold), there is no way of globally ordering the 
> "present moments" that would be said to exist at each point. 
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:00 PM, Edgar L. Owen <> wrote:
> Hi Jason,
> Yes I do have an explanation for how GR effects are computed. Thanks for 
> asking. It's refreshing to just have someone ask a question about my 
> theories rather than jumping to attack them. Much appreciated...
> The processor cycles for all computations are provided by P-time (clock 
> time doesn't exist yet as it is going to be computed along with all other 
> information states). Thus all computations occur simultaneously and 
> continually in a non-dimensional abstract computational space as p-time 
> progresses.
> The results of these computations is the information states of everything 
> in the universe including all relativistic effects. The way this works to 
> automatically get GR effects is simply to use the pure numeric information 
> of the mass-energy particle property as the relative SCALE of the 
> dimensionality of spacetime as it is computed. The effect of this is to 
> automatically dilate (cur
> ...

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