On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:54 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 1/16/2014 10:06 AM, Jason Resch wrote: > > > > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:37 AM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On 1/15/2014 10:59 PM, Jason Resch wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:46 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Ok, speculatively jumping into the Tegmark book, which I am plodding >>> through and his 4 levels of the multiverse, I need to throw out this >>> question. Is it even possible, in principle, to physically traverse into >>> another universe, a parallel universe, and then back again? I do not mran >>> in the David Deutsch sense of performing cross cosmic quantum calculations, >>> but directly, mollecularly, boots on the ground, traveling there and back >>> again? >>> >>> >> Molecularly, I'd say no, but consciously I'd say yes. If we froze you >> on Earth, and then coincidentally Aliens 100 trillion ly away from us made >> an exact version out of you out of matter they had on hand, and then they >> thawed you, you would travel these 100 trillion ly. This journey is >> impossible for matter or energy to make, impossible for anything physical, >> yet your consciousness did it. For the same reason, someone in an >> altogether different physical universe could do the same thing and enable >> you to travel there. There would be no causal link, however, to whatever >> memories you formed in that universe and whatever version of you we create >> to unthaw and bring you back, it would be again an entire coincidence for >> us to get it just right so the one we thaw matches the one the aliens in >> the distant land decided to freeze. >> >> In a sense, we are performing these traversals all the time, but only >> between distant universes similar enough to the one we are in a moment >> before, that we don't notice it. You might be sitting there quietly in >> Earth #313812031 one moment, then the next instant you are actually on >> Earth #173119389 (which was an Earth that reappeared after 10^200 cyclical >> big crunch and big bang cycles) from the moment you were just in. >> >> >> But then you've made incomprehensible nonsense of what is meant by "you". >> > > How so? Just because you can't attach your consciousness to a > particular collection of atoms at a particular time and place? "You" are > something different than those atoms., as our metabolism proves daily. > > > You can't attach it to anything - or even to it's own history, since you > discard memories. It has nothing to unify it into being an "it". > No memories were discarded in the above. In fact I specified that the brain states be exactly equal at each freeze/remote thaw cycle. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

