On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:54 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:

>  On 1/16/2014 10:06 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:37 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
>>  On 1/15/2014 10:59 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:46 PM, <spudboy...@aol.com> wrote:
>>> Ok, speculatively jumping into the Tegmark book, which I am plodding
>>> through and his 4 levels of the multiverse, I need to throw out this
>>> question. Is it even possible, in principle, to physically traverse into
>>> another universe, a parallel universe, and then back again? I do not mran
>>> in the David Deutsch sense of performing cross cosmic quantum calculations,
>>> but directly, mollecularly, boots on the ground, traveling there and back
>>> again?
>>  Molecularly, I'd say no, but consciously I'd say yes. If we froze you
>> on Earth, and then coincidentally Aliens 100 trillion ly away from us made
>> an exact version out of you out of matter they had on hand, and then they
>> thawed you, you would travel these 100 trillion ly. This journey is
>> impossible for matter or energy to make, impossible for anything physical,
>> yet your consciousness did it.  For the same reason, someone in an
>> altogether different physical universe could do the same thing and enable
>> you to travel there.  There would be no causal link, however, to whatever
>> memories you formed in that universe and whatever version of you we create
>> to unthaw and bring you back, it would be again an entire coincidence for
>> us to get it just right so the one we thaw matches the one the aliens in
>> the distant land decided to freeze.
>>  In a sense, we are performing these traversals all the time, but only
>> between distant universes similar enough to the one we are in a moment
>> before, that we don't notice it.  You might be sitting there quietly in
>> Earth #313812031 one moment, then the next instant you are actually on
>> Earth #173119389 (which was an Earth that reappeared after 10^200 cyclical
>> big crunch and big bang cycles) from the moment you were just in.
>>  But then you've made incomprehensible nonsense of what is meant by "you".
>  How so?  Just because you can't attach your consciousness to a
> particular collection of atoms at a particular time and place?  "You" are
> something different than those atoms., as our metabolism proves daily.
> You can't attach it to anything - or even to it's own history, since you
> discard memories.  It has nothing to unify it into being an "it".

No memories were discarded in the above. In fact I specified that the brain
states be exactly equal at each freeze/remote thaw cycle.


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