On 1/16/2014 5:49 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 7:31 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
On 1/16/2014 1:57 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:54 PM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
On 1/16/2014 10:06 AM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 11:37 AM, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net
On 1/15/2014 10:59 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 6:46 PM, <spudboy...@aol.com
Ok, speculatively jumping into the Tegmark book, which I am
through and his 4 levels of the multiverse, I need to throw out
question. Is it even possible, in principle, to physically
into another universe, a parallel universe, and then back
again? I do
not mran in the David Deutsch sense of performing cross cosmic
quantum calculations, but directly, mollecularly, boots on the
ground, traveling there and back again?
Molecularly, I'd say no, but consciously I'd say yes. If we froze
Earth, and then coincidentally Aliens 100 trillion ly away from us
an exact version out of you out of matter they had on hand, and
thawed you, you would travel these 100 trillion ly. This journey is
impossible for matter or energy to make, impossible for anything
physical, yet your consciousness did it. For the same reason,
an altogether different physical universe could do the same thing
enable you to travel there. There would be no causal link, however,
whatever memories you formed in that universe and whatever version
we create to unthaw and bring you back, it would be again an entire
coincidence for us to get it just right so the one we thaw matches
one the aliens in the distant land decided to freeze.
In a sense, we are performing these traversals all the time, but
between distant universes similar enough to the one we are in a
before, that we don't notice it. You might be sitting there quietly
Earth #313812031 one moment, then the next instant you are actually
Earth #173119389 (which was an Earth that reappeared after 10^200
cyclical big crunch and big bang cycles) from the moment you were
But then you've made incomprehensible nonsense of what is meant by
How so? Just because you can't attach your consciousness to a
collection of atoms at a particular time and place? "You" are something
different than those atoms., as our metabolism proves daily.
You can't attach it to anything - or even to it's own history, since you
discard memories. It has nothing to unify it into being an "it".
No memories were discarded in the above. In fact I specified that the brain
be exactly equal at each freeze/remote thaw cycle.
OK, I missed that point. But I still see no sense that can be made of a
like "You might be sitting there quietly in Earth #313812031 one moment,
next instant you are actually on Earth #173119389" Are you supposing that
you are sitting on has nothing to do with what future is more probable and
other Earth might be a more probable continuation -
Each one has an equal weight in my mind.
and in what sense it would an "other" Earth if it was compatible with you
In no subjective sense are they different, only from a God's eye view could you see the
difference between them. We might not have a way to keep a tally of how many collapse
cycles our universe has undergone, but if someone were simulating the physics of this
universe they could count the number, and how frequently exact replicas of Earth, or
you, appear in them.
But if it were an exact replica it would be the same one - especially in a
computational/information model. Remember Leibniz's identity of indiscernibles.
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