Dear Edgar, I am dyslexic... Do you know what a Fiber Bundle is? I ask this because the explanation does not transfer very well into English. I have tried to summerize the theory previously and didn't get very favorable results. I didn't discover it... It is the work of a Japanese Prof. Hitoshi Kitada:
This paper might be the best conversational presentation: http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9708055 Comments on the Problem of Time Hitoshi Kitada <http://arxiv.org/find/gr-qc/1/au:+Kitada_H/0/1/0/all/0/1> (Univ. of Tokyo & Univ. of Virginia), Lancelot R. Fletcher<http://arxiv.org/find/gr-qc/1/au:+Fletcher_L/0/1/0/all/0/1> (The Free Lance Academy) (Submitted on 22 Aug 1997 (v1 <http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9708055v1>), last revised 1 Nov 1997 (this version, v4)) The problem of time, considered as a problem in the usual physical context, is reflected in relation with the paper by Kauffman and Smolin ( gr-qc/9703026 <http://arxiv.org/abs/gr-qc/9703026>). It is shown that the problem is a misposed problem in the sense that it was raised with a lack of the recognition of mathematically known facts. On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edgaro...@att.net> wrote: > Stephen, > > Speaking of parsing correctly, I presume you meant WRITE rather than read? > :-) > > Anyway glad we agree block time is nonsense. So what's your idea of time > that is not "BS", and that is not a "cartoon with many lacuna"? > > A quick summary please? > > Edgar > > > > On Saturday, January 18, 2014 2:06:04 PM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: > >> Dear Edgar, >> >> LOL! You don't parse what I read very well... I have been saying that >> block time is a BS idea. Time is not like that at all. I have a model of >> time that works great in physics, but not many know of it. BTW, I do >> appreciate your concept, but it is a cartoon with many lacuna. It needs a >> lot of formalism and polish to even be said to work. >> >> For one thing, your notion of a computational space makes no sense at >> all. Sorry. >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Edgar L. Owen <edga...@att.net> wrote: >> >> Stephen, >> >> I agree with your criticism of Bruno's UDA. It has no explanation for >> becoming, for anything ever happening. I've also pointed this out. >> >> However, this is equally true of block time, which you seem to believe >> in. In block time there is no convincing way anything can ever actually >> happen. >> >> On the other hand my model solves this fundamental problem by positing an >> actively computing reality in a present moment of p-time as the fundamental >> level of reality. >> >> Edgar >> >> >> >> On Saturday, January 18, 2014 11:54:15 AM UTC-5, Stephen Paul King wrote: >> >> Dear Bruno, >> >> >> On Sat, Jan 18, 2014 at 5:54 AM, Bruno Marchal <mar...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: >> >> >> On 17 Jan 2014, at 20:38, Stephen Paul King wrote: >> >> Dear Bruno, >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 17, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Bruno Marchal <mar...@ulb.ac.be> wrote: >> >> >> On 16 Jan 2014, at 04:44, Stephen Paul King wrote: >> >> Dear LizR, >> >> But stop and think of the implications of what even Bruno is saying. >> *Space >> is completely a construction of our minds.* *There is no 3,1 dimensional >> Riemannian manifold out there*. We measure events and our minds put >> those together into tableaux that we communicate about and agree on, >> because our languages, like formal logical system, force the results to >> obey a set of implied rules. We formulate explanations, formulate models >> and look for rules that the models might obey. 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