On 01 Apr 2015, at 09:46, Russell Standish wrote:
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 08:37:36AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 7:32 AM, Russell Standish <[email protected]
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wrote:
On Wed, Apr 01, 2015 at 05:17:00AM +0200, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
wrote:
On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 3:02 AM, Russell Standish <[email protected]
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wrote:
I have always disagreed with this. The movie+broken gates is
still a
computation, just a rather simple one. Playing a movie in (eg)
SMPlayer is still running a computation.
And I have never understood how that doesn't void significance of
1p
views.
If this is totally tight, correct, mechanistic 3p view, then you
get
corresponding complete absence of meaning on 1p level of person/
machine's
discourse.
Happy April fool's to you!
More seriously though, I haven't the foggiest what you mean. Even
your
follow on prose doesn't help.
Why would the fact that playing a recording is a computation void
significance of 1p views?
Because it weakens/relativizes the difference between counterfactual
possibility instantiating computation and say the
numbers/sequences/patterns of a movie on my phone.
I really don't know what your push back is. The program consisting of
the nop instruction 1000 times in a row, followed by the halt
instruction is a perfectly valid program, and running it on a machine
is a perfectly valid computation, albeit a rather trivial one.
There are no counterfactuals involved. The program will do the same
thing regardless of what the CPU registers contain
Playing a recording is just a slightly more complex version of the
same thing.
OK, but so you agree that MGA shows that if comp is true, matter is of
no use, unless we admit that a complex experience like a human dream
can supervene on a very simple trivial activity. Then the MGA
intuition pump seems to work well enough, imo.
Bruno
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