On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote: > On 6/22/2015 3:11 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote: > > > > On 22 June 2015 at 17:33, Bruce Kellett <[email protected] > <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','[email protected]');>> wrote: > >> Stathis Papaioannou wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> The "closest continuer" idea is wrong on many counts. Both >>> copies consider themselves to be the original - both are wrong >>> in your view. But if one copy was 0.1% different from the >>> origina, that copy would not be the continuation of the >>> original, despite thinking that he was, just a bit taller and a >>> bit happier for the experience. On the other hand, if one copy >>> was 1% different and the other 0.1% different, the 0.1% copy >>> would be a continuation of the original. And if the 0.1% copy >>> was in a coma when created, the 1% copy would be the continuer >>> until the 0.1% copy was revived. >>> >>> How are you going to measure these fine differences? If there is a >>> tie according to any appreciable measurement, then there are two new >>> persons. Don't forget that the duplication is only accurate at the >>> level of replacement, which is never assumed to be exact -- we >>> cannot have exact copies because of the quantum cloning >>> restrictions. The odd difference in the number of atoms in your big >>> toe is not a relevant difference. >>> >>> It's easy to measure differences. One of the new JC's is taller and >>> better looking. Naturally, he claims that he is the true JC, but improved. >>> >> >> What he claims is irrelevant. The copies diverge almost instantaneously, >> so there are essentially always two new persons in these scenarios. If they >> are made to be different by the machine, then there is no duplication! > > > I diverge from my previous self from moment to moment in ordinary life, > but I still consider that I remain me. If I woke up tomorrow taller because > I had a growth spurt during the night I would still consider that I was me; > yet by the "closest continuer" theory, I would stop being me if a copy that > hadn't grown was made somewhere else. > > > I think waking up somewhere else would count strongly against being the > closest continuation. >
What if, while both are asleep, the original is moved to another location and the copy moved to the original's bed? -- Stathis Papaioannou -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
