On 22 June 2015 at 17:33, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:

> Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>         The "closest continuer" idea is wrong on many counts. Both
>>         copies consider themselves to be the original - both are wrong
>>         in your view. But if one copy was 0.1% different from the
>>         origina, that copy would not be the continuation of the
>>         original, despite thinking that he was, just a bit taller and a
>>         bit happier for the experience. On the other hand, if one copy
>>         was 1% different and the other 0.1% different, the 0.1% copy
>>         would be a continuation of the original. And if the 0.1% copy
>>         was in a coma when created, the 1% copy would be the continuer
>>         until the 0.1% copy was revived.
>>
>>     How are you going to measure these fine differences? If there is a
>>     tie according to any appreciable measurement, then there are two new
>>     persons. Don't forget that the duplication is only accurate at the
>>     level of replacement, which is never assumed to be exact -- we
>>  cannot have exact copies because of the quantum cloning
>>     restrictions. The odd difference in the number of atoms in your big
>>     toe is not a relevant difference.
>>
>> It's easy to measure differences. One of the new JC's is taller and
>> better looking. Naturally, he claims that he is the true JC, but improved.
>>
>
> What he claims is irrelevant. The copies diverge almost instantaneously,
> so there are essentially always two new persons in these scenarios. If they
> are made to be different by the machine, then there is no duplication!


I diverge from my previous self from moment to moment in ordinary life, but
I still consider that I remain me. If I woke up tomorrow taller because I
had a growth spurt during the night I would still consider that I was me;
yet by the "closest continuer" theory, I would stop being me if a copy that
hadn't grown was made somewhere else.


-- 
Stathis Papaioannou

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