On 23 June 2015 at 10:37, Bruce Kellett <[email protected]> wrote:

> meekerdb wrote:
>
>> On 6/22/2015 2:56 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday, June 23, 2015, meekerdb <[email protected] <mailto:
>>> [email protected]>> wrote:
>>>
>>>     On 6/22/2015 3:11 AM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>     I diverge from my previous self from moment to moment in ordinary
>>>>     life, but I still consider that I remain me. If I woke up
>>>>     tomorrow taller because I had a growth spurt during the night I
>>>>     would still consider that I was me; yet by the "closest
>>>>     continuer" theory, I would stop being me if a copy that hadn't
>>>>     grown was made somewhere else.
>>>>
>>>
>>>     I think waking up somewhere else would count strongly against
>>>     being the closest continuation.
>>>
>>> What if, while both are asleep, the original is moved to another
>>> location and the copy moved to the original's bed?
>>>
>>
>> That would help, but there's an implicit assumption that asleep=mindless.
>> Anesthetic would make a better example. But won't both the original and the
>> copy find himself in a disjoint location incompatible with where he was
>> before?
>>
>
> I think part of the problem here is that the first-person impression is
> taken to be definitive. Since the closest continuer theory weights bodily
> continuity fairly highly in the metric whereby 'closest' is to be
> determined, what happens to your body, whether or not you are conscious of
> it, is an important consideration. Similarly, physical causal connections
> weight significantly. Consequently, moving while asleep or anaesthetized
> are scarcely relevant to the personal identity issue.


If this ad hoc addition is part of the closest continuer theory (I admit I
haven't read Nozick's original paper) then it just further discredits it.


-- 
Stathis Papaioannou

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