On Monday, October 15, 2018 at 11:11:13 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:53 AM Philip Thrift <cloud...@gmail.com > <javascript:>> wrote: > > >>I guess its *possible* the man applying for a Ph.D was a zombie, but >>> you know you are not a zombie so if he is one then Charles Darwin was dead >>> wrong because there is no way random mutation and natural selection could >>> produce a zombie. And I don't think Charles Darwin was wrong. >>> >> >> > He could have been, like @RealSophiaRobot >> <https://twitter.com/RealSophiaRobot>, manufactured. >> > > If evolution found it easier to make a conscious intelligent being than a > non-conscious intelligent being why would human engineers find the exact > opposite to be true? > > John K Clark > > > > That is a right question to ask.
As I have proposed, information processing alone will not lead to consciousness. Experience processing <https://codicalist.wordpress.com/2018/10/14/experience-processing/> must be the basis. So if one defines intelligence such that an entity can't be actually intelligent unless it is conscious, then all the AI work in the information-oriented paradigm today will never lead to actual intelligence. - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.