On Monday, October 15, 2018 at 11:11:13 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 11:53 AM Philip Thrift <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > >>I guess its *possible* the man applying for a Ph.D was a zombie, but >>> you know you are not a zombie so if he is one then Charles Darwin was dead >>> wrong because there is no way random mutation and natural selection could >>> produce a zombie. And I don't think Charles Darwin was wrong. >>> >> >> > He could have been, like @RealSophiaRobot >> <https://twitter.com/RealSophiaRobot>, manufactured. >> > > If evolution found it easier to make a conscious intelligent being than a > non-conscious intelligent being why would human engineers find the exact > opposite to be true? > > John K Clark > > > > That is a right question to ask.
As I have proposed, information processing alone will not lead to consciousness. Experience processing <https://codicalist.wordpress.com/2018/10/14/experience-processing/> must be the basis. So if one defines intelligence such that an entity can't be actually intelligent unless it is conscious, then all the AI work in the information-oriented paradigm today will never lead to actual intelligence. - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

