On Monday, October 15, 2018 at 8:36:01 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 15, 2018 at 1:17 PM Philip Thrift <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > > *>As I have proposed, information processing alone will not lead to >> consciousness. Experience processing >> <https://codicalist.wordpress.com/2018/10/14/experience-processing/> must >> be the basis. * >> > > An experience is not a simple thing so whatever produces it can't be > simple either. If it's complex then it must be made of parts. If even the > parts are complex then they must be made of sub-parts. If we continue doing > this then after a finite number of iterations we'll come to a part that > can't get any simpler because it can change in only one way, from a 1 to a > 0 for example. And we have arrived at information processing. > > >> *>So if one defines intelligence such that an entity can't be actually >> intelligent unless it is conscious, then all the AI work in the >> information-oriented paradigm today will never lead to actual intelligence.* >> > > But computers have already lead to intelligence, unless you keep moving > the goalpost and define intelligence as whatever a computer can't do YET. > > John K Clark > > > >
Whatever one defines intelligence to be, for something (or some *being*, as some might prefer) to be conscious (for those who think it is real) is a more certain thing. - pt -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
