On 10/16/2018 12:54 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:
Whatever one defines intelligence to be, for something (or some /being/, as some might prefer) to be conscious (for those who think it is real)  is a more certain thing.

Intelligence is something observable, as here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZerUbHmuY04

You seem to take it as fairly certain that we can make intelligent machines; which you think will not be conscious.  That implies that there is nothing observable about consciousness.  So how can it be a "more certain thing"?

Brent

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