On 10/16/2018 12:02 PM, Philip Thrift wrote:
On Tuesday, October 16, 2018 at 12:52:25 PM UTC-5, Brent wrote: On 10/16/2018 12:54 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:Whatever one defines intelligence to be, for something (or some /being/, as some might prefer) to be conscious (for those whothink it is real) is a more certain thing.Intelligence is something observable, as here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZerUbHmuY04 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZerUbHmuY04> You seem to take it as fairly certain that we can make intelligent machines; which you think will not be conscious. That implies that there is nothing observable about consciousness. So how can it be a "more certain thing"? Brent Consciousness the the one thing we observe that we are sure of existing.
I can be sure that /*I*/ am conscious. But that along doesn't imply anything about matter or other people being conscious. Observing their intelligent behavior however does.
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