I agree of course with Richard Rorty who said that the idea there is a mind 
that something that is outside the brain/body is one of the worst ideas 
ever concocted in history.

Information is processed in computers with electrons moving in electronic 

- pt

On Sunday, November 4, 2018 at 8:19:40 AM UTC-6, Mark Buda wrote:
> Information is only processed in minds, not in physical systems, unless 
> you can show that minds are physical systems. I believe minds are 
> mathematical objects, as are physical systems, and that minds are a 
> particular kind of mathematical object. I strongly suspect that the 
> particular kind of mathematical object that minds are is called a lawless 
> choice sequence.
> Still doing some reading and thinking on that, though.
> --
> Mark Buda <her...@acm.org <javascript:>>
> I get my monkeys for nothing and my chimps for free.
> On Sun, Nov 4, 2018, 8:54 AM John Clark <johnk...@gmail.com <javascript:> 
> wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 4, 2018 at 6:23 AM Philip Thrift <cloud...@gmail.com 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>> *> If experience (Galen Strawson, The Subject of Experience) is the 
>>> result of information (only) processing, *
>> If? If information is not the thing that needs processing to produce 
>> intelligence then what is? 
>> > then the argument for arithmetical (Platonic) reality holds. 
>> Only if somebody can show how information, or anything else, can be 
>> processed without using matter that obeys the laws of physics. And, despite 
>> the existence of books made of dead trees with black squiggles made of ink 
>> with a high Carbon content pressed onto them, nobody has even come close to 
>> doing that. 
>>  John K Clark

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