On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 2:03:10 PM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: > > > > On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 12:57:00 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 8:59:42 AM UTC-6, Philip Thrift wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thursday, January 24, 2019 at 5:54:46 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> My point is that in physics what might be called a halting condition is >>>> an attractor point or limit cycle. Equilibrium is the terminal point in >>>> the >>>> evolution of some system, say thinking according to Landauer's original >>>> paper on thermodynamics and information. The quantum field theory of black >>>> holes has no equilibrium condition. Now if the black hole runs away with >>>> Hawking radiation it will “explode” in a burst of gamma rays and other >>>> quanta. A Turing machine that does not halt can also be said to burn >>>> itself >>>> out, and if anyone has programmed assembler there were loops you could put >>>> a machine into that might do damage. >>>> >>>> Sorry for being slow on this. I forgot to get flu shots this year and I >>>> have been hit with a real doozy of a flu. Since Sunday night until >>>> yesterday I was horribly ill, and only now am beginning to feel normal. >>>> Get >>>> the shots, you really do not want this flu! >>>> >>>> LC >>>> >>> >>> I used to think that there *could be* true hypercomputation (what is >>> called super-Turing machines) in nature, but now I think that there is no >>> such thing (but anything remains possible, of course). >>> >>> *But the idea of substrate-independent Turing machines is incomplete.* >>> >>> I shouldn't say (if will jinx me!) but I've never gotten a flu shot and >>> I haven't gotten the flu in over 40 years. >>> >>> But I hope the flu program doesn't start running in / affect my >>> substrate! >>> >>> - pt >>> >> >> I hate to pop your bubble here, but a few years ago at a New Year's party >> a person who had cancer go into remission made this statement that she >> never got colds or flus. A doctor I know was there and responded with how >> not getting these sicknesses is a risk factor for cancer! The woman died a >> last summer with the return of her non-Hodgkins lymphoma. >> >> Hyper-Turing computations or results are not accessible to local >> observers. >> >> LC >> > > > > What about the interviews of people over 100 who say they've never had a > cold or the flu? > > And where are these hyper-Turing processes occurring? > > - pt > Hypercomputations run into extreme energy or frequency, so the conclusion of it occurs in black holes or in trans-Plankian scales we can't observe. In a sense it is a sort of renormailization and treated as a p-adic regularization of quantum gravity.
When it comes to cold and flu I am just echoing what I was told. You would have to research this out more extensively. LC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
