On 5/16/2019 5:52 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:
This is what I call one form of *consciousness denial*
https://www.nybooks.com/daily/2018/03/13/the-consciousness-deniers/
in that information processing absent actual /first-class/ entities of
qualia (or experiences) can only produce zombies. One needs
information processing operating in a /material substrate/ where those
entities are available to be combined and manipulated.
You still need to explain why your elbow isn't conscious.
Brent
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On Thursday, May 16, 2019 at 7:05:53 AM UTC-5, Brent wrote:
The question is why does it supervene on the brain and not on the
elbow. What about the brain causes it to "make experiences"?
Most scientists think it is because the brain does computations,
i.e. information processing, which is more extensive and complex
that the elbow does. Which leads to Bruno's argument that if it
is the information processing that produces mind, then mind can be
instantiated by any sufficiently complex computer+program. Since
he believes in arithmetical realism, and since all possible
computations exist implicitly in arithmetic, it follows that all
possible thoughts already exist in arithmetic and we can explain
reality as some particular subset of those thoughts.
Brent
On 5/16/2019 12:54 AM, Philip Thrift wrote:
On Wednesday, May 15, 2019 at 6:55:08 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote:
mind supervenes on the brain
Bruce
The heart* pumps blood.
The brain pumps experiences.
The brain is an experience pump!
* Actually it's more complex: blood cells are made in bone marrow
signaled by the kidneys and recycled by the spleen. Do it's
kidneys+marrow+spleen+heart that make and pump blood. The brain
makes and pumps experiences.
@philipthrift
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