On 5/17/2019 2:16 PM, Jason Resch wrote:


On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 6:08 PM John Clark <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    On Thu, May 16, 2019 at 4:54 PM Jason Resch <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

        /> we need to demonstrate that the elbow isn't consciousness.
        E.g., it can exhibit reflexes to simuli without involving the
        brain./


    How would that prove anything? What proof is there that a reflexe
    or any other observable behavior has anything to do with
    consciousness? There is none. The hard fact is you must forget
    about proof and just assume there is a link between intelligent
    behavior and consciousness because the only alternative is solipsism.


You said consciousness is how information feels to be processed. What if that information is only 1 bit (like is my hand being burned or not)?

First, I don't think that's 1bit.  Which hand, where on your hand? How much?  Those are bits in addition to the pain.  But as I pointed out earlier, processing bits can only instantiate consciousness when it is reference to some values or actions...i.e. within an agent and environment in which he can act.  This is why I find the movie graph argument unconvincing.

Brent

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